Re: seeking advice/resources for a *new* mac-based LAN


Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:24:39 -0400


WinMac Digest #426 - Thursday, September 30, 1999

  Re: WinMac needs a new home
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  SoftPC support
          by "hharken" <hank.harken@asu.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Virtual PC
          by "Rick Kent" <maverick@maverickmedia.com>
  seeking advice/resources for a *new* mac-based LAN
          by "tom lyczko" <tom@mail.visualwave.com>
  Re: seeking advice/resources for a *new* mac-based LAN
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>

Subject: Re: WinMac needs a new home
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:07:59 -0400
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        Who you get to moderate the list (if anyone) is up to you, but I would
recommend using OneList.com to host it. I've found their servers to be
extremely fast, and their Web based administration & moderation is a
breeze. Plus, they have a feature that allows you to export your mailing
list to their server.

        They have a free service (which I use for the Mac-NT list, and a fee-based
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of advertising at the end of each email.

        BTW, the Mac-NT list is up to 300 members, since we received a nice
writeup by Sunbelt Software in their newsletter last week.

        Cheers!
        Dan

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At 12:54 PM 9/29/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
> I've decided that I really don't want to host or moderate
>WinMac any more. It requires a surprising amount of work and time,
>and I have neither one in abundance right now.
>
> Would someone be willing to take over the list in all respects?
>
> --Marc (the list mom)

Subject: SoftPC support
From: hharken <hank.harken@asu.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:14:11 -0700
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>The tech support folks at Insignia
>said (essentially) "tough luck, you need to upgrade..."

I had a similar experience. A non-profit organization I
was helping had SoftPC for Performas. When the Performa
had a RAM upgrade the SoftPC ceased working. When I called
to ask what was happening the reply was "That product
is no longer being supported". (end of conversation)

Needless to say, I prefer not to buy Insignia products
anymore and my workplace has found Virtual PC from
Connectix to work very well.

There is a discussion of the new version of Virtual PC
with a comparison of performance with the previous
version at

     http://www.brindley.net/reviews/virtualpc3.html

- Hank

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Virtual PC
From: Rick Kent <maverick@maverickmedia.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:20:32 -0700
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>Why do you have to use Virtual PC for Quickbooks Pro. Mac has a version
>for it. I use it and it is great. Now they aren't supposed to continue
>with upgrades, but I used 3.0 for three years ansd never had a problem.

1. Quickbooks Pro for Mac stopped at 4.0. For Windose it just went
to Quickbooks Pro 99 (Really smart numbering there Intuit!), an
upgrade from Version 6.0. Many useful features have been added,
including multiuser support, online payroll support, forms editing,
many payroll features, and more reports.

2. Intuit has stopped supporting Payroll updates for the Mac
version, even though it was a subscription service which we paid for
on an ongoing basis.. (Gee, big deal. All they would have to do is
add a few numbers to a table to keep it up to date.) Instead, they
sent out a copy of Aatrix top pay. But that means running and
integrating two different application, where we only used one before.

>Word has it that the last Mac version (4.0?) will crash if you enter
>a date after 12/31/1999. I don't have the program so I can't confirm
>from personal experience.

They have offered an update for this for free.

>Don't know about others' reasons, but I'm the treasurer of a couple of related
>non-profit organizations and I have volunteers who enters the information into
>the program on their PCs and, more importantly, our auditor uses QBPro on a
>PC. Being able to just copy over the year-end files is much easier than having
>to work from paper. Of course, if Intuit followed Microsoft's lead (now,
>there's an oxymoron!) and had true file compatibility and version status
>across platforms, this wouldn't be an issue. Oh well...

Actually, you can do a backup of the Mac file, from within
Quickbooks, and the Windose version will be able to open it. That is
what we have been doing with our accountant each year.

Rick Kent

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Subject: seeking advice/resources for a *new* mac-based LAN
From: "tom lyczko" <tom@mail.visualwave.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:12:17 -0400
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Hello, I've enjoyed reading all the good advice on this list!!

It appears that finally my company might upgrade to a 'real' LAN.

The company has five or so staff, several Macs and Mac clones, several Windows boxes, and 2 Postscript printers.

I think we may well go with an Appleshare IP 6.x Mac server, due to its relatively easier administration, ability to accommodate Windows 9x/NT clients.

(I'd need a really compelling argument for NT Server, since the guy I report to is not all that technically competent and he prefers the Mac over Windows.)

My questions are:

1. What's an adequate amount of RAM? The server will be mostly for file/print sharing, initially.

2. Soon after the LAN is set up, they want to get a cable modem setup for Internet access sharing.

a. What is good security software to get so people can't hack in via whichever computer has the cable modem connection? (I hope to have them use a Mac for this instead of a Windows machine.)

b. What is good Internet connection sharing software or hardware on the Mac side? (I know about Sygate on the Windows side.)

3. What is considered good backup software? (Ideally, I'd like NOT to use tapes, but CD-R or CD-RW instead.)

4. Are there any good web sites or books about various facets of Mac LANs and Appleshare IP??

5. Ideally we want as much storage on the server as we can afford...but are there any specific considerations I should know about in terms of disk storage or how the hard disk setup should be?? (e.g. is RAID worth it??)

(We don't need Mac OS X cuz we're so small...)

Thank you, and I hope some of you will help me out!!

:) Tom Lyczko

--
tom@visualwave.com
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Subject: Re: seeking advice/resources for a *new* mac-based LAN From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:24:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 04:12 PM 9/30/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, I've enjoyed reading all the good advice on this list!! > >It appears that finally my company might upgrade to a 'real' LAN. > >The company has five or so staff, several Macs and Mac clones, several Windows boxes, and 2 Postscript printers. > >I think we may well go with an Appleshare IP 6.x Mac server, due to its relatively easier administration, ability to accommodate Windows 9x/NT clients. > >(I'd need a really compelling argument for NT Server, since the guy I report to is not all that technically competent and he prefers the Mac over Windows.) > >My questions are: > >1. What's an adequate amount of RAM? The server will be mostly for file/print sharing, initially. > >2. Soon after the LAN is set up, they want to get a cable modem setup for Internet access sharing. >

Bad choice: The amount of cable modem hacking is unbelievable - It's WORSE than pay TV theft.

Instead, use DSL with a small hardware router. The advantage is that you can also "pile on" your telephony (Voice over IP) for reduced toll call rates.

>3. What is considered good backup software? (Ideally, I'd like NOT to use tapes, but CD-R or CD-RW instead.) > You're pretty much stuck with Retrospect <http://www.dantz.com>.

BUT, stick with tape: CD/R or even DVD/RAM is a poor choice due to the data transfer rates of only about 1 MB per second. DLT tape is, by far, the best solution with transfer rates of up to 6 MB per second. This will give you mainframe quality backup.

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