Re: [WinMac] FireWire (IEEE 1394) comments updated

From: John Welch (jwelch[at]aer.com)
Date: Wed Aug 29 2001 - 05:23:30 PDT

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    On 08/29/2001 07:04, "Dan Schwartz" <Expresso@snip.net> wrote:

    > No, I didn't say I was happy... Just that SOME of the issues have been
    > addressed...
    >
    >> you missed some points:
    >>
    > [clip]
    >
    >> 3) USB 2.0 is hardly competition for FireWire, and when the change was
    >> announced, it didn't exist. And as of right now, I know of exactly one USB
    >> 2.0 product. Big market...almost as big as the pre-iMac USB 1.X market.
    >
    > I didn't SAY I liked USB 2.0 -- Just that it exists. BTW, Orange Micro was
    > shipping a PowerPC Mac USB 2.0 at MacWorld/NYC over a year ago.

    I understand that. But without USB 2.0 devices, it's a helicopter car. Nice
    idea, but who cares. Kinda like pre-iMac USB. When I see a better assortment
    of devices, I'll get a little more interested.

    >
    > [cut]
    >
    >>> This is a Good Development, because now more of those previously esoteric
    >>> FireWire peripherals can be used on greater than the 7% of the market that
    > is
    >>> Mac based. Key to all of this, though, is robust drivers: How many of us
    > have
    >>> had fits with Toast not finding a balky CD-R deck?!
    >>
    >> Um...considering that Ti and a couple of other companies, like Sony, helped
    >> develop IEEE-1394, this has been the case with Sony machines for a while
    >> now. Glad to see you're up on things. And Toast 5.0.1 has been flawless for
    >> me...better by far than iTunes.
    >
    > Well, I suggest you go back and look at MacInTouch. And I noticed
    > you tried to slide by the Toast 4.x FireWire fiasco... Gotcha! :)

    Not at all. Toast 4 sucks for FireWire drives. They fixed it in Toast 5.
    That's one of the reasons for new versions of software. This is why I don't
    use Toast 4 anymore. It doesn't like my Sony CD/RW...at all. I don't beat
    dead horses, I go find a live one.

    >
    > In any case, I'll stick with SCSI until they pry it from my cold, dead
    > fingers. About the only place I generally don't use SCSI is on laptops: X86
    > portables never had them, while Apple killed them on PowerBooks.

    Yes, and thank the lord...I lightened my laptop load by three pounds of
    cables.

    >
    > Case in point: When was the last time you saw 1394 on a server (besides an
    > Apple rebadged desktop)? If it's so damn good, then why is SCSI still the
    > standard?

    Because SCSI is good at what it's good for, and FireWire is good at what
    it's good for. Only you are having this particular argument. If I want
    multitasking, better RAID support, excellent support for LARGE sustained
    file transfers, at really high speeds, I use SCSI. If I want ease of use,
    simple connectors, speed, and hostless file transfers, I use FireWire. I
    also don't try to make a horse act like a seal.

    >
    > Unquestionably, FireWire is excellent for DV cameras... And even digital still
    > cameras, due to its' combination of small connector size and good speed.
    > Beyond
    > those applications, I'll stick to Small Computer System Interface, a/k/a SCSI,
    > whenever possible.

    Well, then you are missing some nice implementations. I haven't seen too
    many portable SCSI RAIDs. But, even as limited as it is, there is one for
    FireWire. Would I replace a nice Unison I/O Flyer with one? Of course not,
    that would be dumb. I use the tool in the way the tool should be used.
    Otherwise you end up like those idiots touting Bluetooth as a LAN
    technology.

    john

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