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On 08/29/2001 07:04, "Dan Schwartz" <Expresso@snip.net> wrote:
> No, I didn't say I was happy... Just that SOME of the issues have been
> addressed...
>
>> you missed some points:
>>
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>
>> 3) USB 2.0 is hardly competition for FireWire, and when the change was
>> announced, it didn't exist. And as of right now, I know of exactly one USB
>> 2.0 product. Big market...almost as big as the pre-iMac USB 1.X market.
>
> I didn't SAY I liked USB 2.0 -- Just that it exists. BTW, Orange Micro was
> shipping a PowerPC Mac USB 2.0 at MacWorld/NYC over a year ago.
I understand that. But without USB 2.0 devices, it's a helicopter car. Nice
idea, but who cares. Kinda like pre-iMac USB. When I see a better assortment
of devices, I'll get a little more interested.
>
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>
>>> This is a Good Development, because now more of those previously esoteric
>>> FireWire peripherals can be used on greater than the 7% of the market that
> is
>>> Mac based. Key to all of this, though, is robust drivers: How many of us
> have
>>> had fits with Toast not finding a balky CD-R deck?!
>>
>> Um...considering that Ti and a couple of other companies, like Sony, helped
>> develop IEEE-1394, this has been the case with Sony machines for a while
>> now. Glad to see you're up on things. And Toast 5.0.1 has been flawless for
>> me...better by far than iTunes.
>
> Well, I suggest you go back and look at MacInTouch. And I noticed
> you tried to slide by the Toast 4.x FireWire fiasco... Gotcha! :)
Not at all. Toast 4 sucks for FireWire drives. They fixed it in Toast 5.
That's one of the reasons for new versions of software. This is why I don't
use Toast 4 anymore. It doesn't like my Sony CD/RW...at all. I don't beat
dead horses, I go find a live one.
>
> In any case, I'll stick with SCSI until they pry it from my cold, dead
> fingers. About the only place I generally don't use SCSI is on laptops: X86
> portables never had them, while Apple killed them on PowerBooks.
Yes, and thank the lord...I lightened my laptop load by three pounds of
cables.
>
> Case in point: When was the last time you saw 1394 on a server (besides an
> Apple rebadged desktop)? If it's so damn good, then why is SCSI still the
> standard?
Because SCSI is good at what it's good for, and FireWire is good at what
it's good for. Only you are having this particular argument. If I want
multitasking, better RAID support, excellent support for LARGE sustained
file transfers, at really high speeds, I use SCSI. If I want ease of use,
simple connectors, speed, and hostless file transfers, I use FireWire. I
also don't try to make a horse act like a seal.
>
> Unquestionably, FireWire is excellent for DV cameras... And even digital still
> cameras, due to its' combination of small connector size and good speed.
> Beyond
> those applications, I'll stick to Small Computer System Interface, a/k/a SCSI,
> whenever possible.
Well, then you are missing some nice implementations. I haven't seen too
many portable SCSI RAIDs. But, even as limited as it is, there is one for
FireWire. Would I replace a nice Unison I/O Flyer with one? Of course not,
that would be dumb. I use the tool in the way the tool should be used.
Otherwise you end up like those idiots touting Bluetooth as a LAN
technology.
john
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